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Post by Picap on May 11, 2017 14:15:12 GMT
Opening in Chile today
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Post by Picap on May 13, 2017 5:37:53 GMT
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Post by will on May 15, 2017 3:40:26 GMT
this film may not relesae in china mainland theaters and FOXS has sold the copyright to aiqiyi(internet vidio site,over 6.7M vip hits now).BTW, amazon`s sad movie:Manchester by the sea has passed the examination(box office spilit) and I dont understand foxs`s mind(gifted is more happy than manchester, right?)
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Post by bethnor on May 15, 2017 4:50:05 GMT
this film may not relesae in china mainland theaters and FOXS has sold the copyright to aiqiyi(internet vidio site,over 6.7M vip hits now).BTW, amazon`s sad movie:Manchester by the sea has passed the examination(box office spilit) and I dont understand foxs`s mind(gifted is more happy than manchester, right?) it's a bit off topic, but "manchester by the sea" is a good example of how being in a critically well-received movie is often about being in the right place at the right time. first, i don't think it's as great as the critics say. second, i am very confident that it's absolutely not something chris could have easily have done. and you would have had a critically acclaimed movie without your male lead being accused of inappropriate conduct. |
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Post by will on May 15, 2017 7:23:23 GMT
this film may not relesae in china mainland theaters and FOXS has sold the copyright to aiqiyi(internet vidio site,over 6.7M vip hits now).BTW, amazon`s sad movie:Manchester by the sea has passed the examination(box office spilit) and I dont understand foxs`s mind(gifted is more happy than manchester, right?) it's a bit off topic, but "manchester by the sea" is a good example of how being in a critically well-received movie is often about being in the right place at the right time. first, i don't think it's as great as the critics say. second, i am very confident that it's absolutely not something chris could have easily have done. and you would have had a critically acclaimed movie without your male lead being accused of inappropriate conduct. I am sorry to let u misunderstand my meaning for English is not my Mother tongue. I mean, from the type and theme of a film, gifted may be more Popular in china movie market and may get a beautiful box office result. so pls enclose this topic O(∩_∩)O！
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Post by Picap on May 15, 2017 8:13:33 GMT
this film may not relesae in china mainland theaters and FOXS has sold the copyright to aiqiyi(internet vidio site,over 6.7M vip hits now).BTW, amazon`s sad movie:Manchester by the sea has passed the examination(box office spilit) and I dont understand foxs`s mind(gifted is more happy than manchester, right?) I agree that Gifted is more happy and mainstream than Manchester. And its star - Chris - is far more popular in China. I agree it would have had a far better chance of making money at the box office. Especially when we look at how well it held up in Taiwan - a market where they usually have big drops www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=intl&country=TW&id=gifted.htmThe difference is that Manchester By The Sea is owned and distributed through Amazon and Roadshow. They really only have this one movie to distribute so they don't have to worry about quotas.
FOX though may have thought their other films had a chance of making more money than Gifted and were worried about the quota cutting them off. Also, the VOD deal in China may have been a very good financial deal for Fox in terms of money because Chris is so popular there. Do you have a link to the article on the VOD hits in China - or to the VOD page where the numbers are shown? |
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Post by Bob on May 15, 2017 8:33:38 GMT
I'd like to see that too. The Snow Piercer fiasco opened my eyes a bit to the vagaries of film distribution but I am intrigued by the China decision. As picap pointed out, it was released in Taiwan and if this is correct IMdb it was also released in Hong Kong, which despite its special status is now part of PR of China. Maybe it's too expensive a job to promote it in such a huge place as mainland China? Or is it down to red tape? I am surprised by the omission of Korea. It's the only place in the world I know of where Chris is greeted by crowds of (screaming) fans at the airport when he arrives. The best the rest of the world can manage is a pap shouting 'is it true you're dating ( insert random name of girl he may or may not have met once). So I'd hazard a guess that his name would guarantee an audience in Korea. bethnorIs the NOT supposed to be there? It's just that if it is it doesn't quite go with the rest of the sentence. |
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Post by Picap on May 15, 2017 9:12:20 GMT
It's not that expensive to market in China since that's usually taken care of the local distributor as part of the deal where foreign studios only get 25% of the B.O. (as opposed to 40-55%). But China does have a quota for how many foreign films are allowed in their market each year - I think it's in the mid 30s. Studios can get around that by partnering with a China Studio or outright selling the Chinese rights to the distributor. ( Ghost in the Shell did this for $20m and they wound up better for the studio since it didn't do well theatrically there). In this case they sold the rights to VOD instead of the theatrical rights. South Korea really should have a theatrical release date for this. It has rather good Want To See numbers on Naver movie.naver.com/movie/bi/mi/basic.nhn?code=143469But they didn't have one for RDJ's The Judge either even though he's an even bigger superstar there and it was a more expensive film. Instead Warner Bros sent that to the VOD market there where it did very well. Dramas have a difficult time O/S in a lot of markets unless they come out during the Award period with all the attendant buzz. Sometimes because they don't culturally translate well (nor do comedies) but a market like South Korea is so internally strong where it's own dramas do fantastically well (some doing blockbuster numbers) it's not looking to fill the void as it does with big action, sci-fi or animation which it doesn't produce on that kind of scale. Interestingly, though SK has a very healthy "art house" market for small and older films (be they 5 or 75 years old). |
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Post by Picap on May 15, 2017 10:22:03 GMT
Watching this dubbed in Russian is so odd (though the actors sound pretty good)
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Post by Bob on May 15, 2017 11:30:21 GMT
It's not that expensive to market in China since that's usually taken care of the local distributor as part of the deal where foreign studios only get 25% of the B.O. (as oppressed to 40-55%). But China does have a quota for how many foreign films are allowed in their market each year - I think it's in the mid 30s. Studios can get around that by partnering with a China Studio or outright selling the Chinese rights to the distributor. ( Ghost in the Shell did this for $20m and they wound up better for the studio since it didn't do well theatrically there). In this case they sold the rights to VOD instead of the theatrical rights. South Korea really should have a theatrical release date for this. It has rather good Want To See numbers on Naver movie.naver.com/movie/bi/mi/basic.nhn?code=143469But they didn't have one for RDJ's The Judge either even though he's an even bigger superstar there and it was a more expensive film. Instead Warner Bros sent that to the VOD market there where it did very well. Dramas have a difficult time O/S in a lot of markets unless they come out during the Award period with all the attendant buzz. Sometimes because they don't culturally translate well (nor do comedies) but a market like South Korea is so internally strong where it's own dramas do fantastically well (some doing blockbuster numbers) it's not looking to fill the void as it does with big action, sci-fi or animation which it doesn't produce on that kind of scale. Interestingly, though SK has a very healthy "art house" market for small and older films (be they 5 or 75 years old). Genuinely interested to read all of that. I think when it comes to arthouse type dramas playing well overseas the language aspect is important too and a film where you have to pay careful note of the subtitles doesn't rock everybody's boat. No matter how well you know a language, understanding every word of dialogue can be tricky. My wife's first language is not English but her English is genuinely perfect. Nevertheless, when we watch films at home, especially American films, she often puts the English subtitles on because she says on film, as opposed to real life, it's sometimes hard to catch what people are saying. |
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Post by will on May 16, 2017 4:45:10 GMT
www.iqiyi.com/v_19rrazxgp8.html This is the VOD page and customer must watch the VIP movie on their phone or pad using APP after payment. wmoov.com/movie/boxoffice This is the real-time box office ranking of HK. And dont worry about quotas, the quota has changed and enlarged since last year for many reasons. Copyright to VOD site is one part income, and box-office is another part. FOXs perhaps has gave up the box-office. So sad╮(╯▽╰)╭ how to educate children is the most important evwnt in most East Asia familys. movie taste of Sonth Korea and China is similar. Fox perhaps has a miscarriage of justice for its overseas market. About RDJ's The Judge, I think china people have no interest in this kind of story（in the VOD site, The Judge just has 150k hits now）.
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Post by Picap on May 16, 2017 5:15:16 GMT
www.iqiyi.com/v_19rrazxgp8.html This is the VOD page and customer must watch the VIP movie on their phone or pad using APP after payment. wmoov.com/movie/boxoffice This is the real-time box office ranking of HK. And dont worry about quotas, the quota has changed and enlarged since last year for many reasons. Copyright to VOD site is one part income, and box-office is another part. FOXs perhaps has gave up the box-office. So sad╮(╯▽╰)╭ how to educate children is the most important evwnt in most East Asia familys. movie taste of Sonth Korea and China is similar. Fox perhaps has a miscarriage of justice for its overseas market. About RDJ's The Judge, I think china people have no interest in this kind of story. Thanks so much for the links. Wow, the official China VOD has been downloaded 8.93 million times (if I translated that right). How much does a download cost or is like Neflix - free to members who pay a regular fee ? I'm reading some of the comments from the Chinese VOD. It looks like the story really resonated. |
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Post by will on May 16, 2017 7:23:30 GMT
btw, Snow Piercer was released in China mainland in March. 17, 2014 and the date was close to CA2. This pic got about 10M $( sorry, I dont remember the exchange rate clearly). in my opinion, the reason of Snow Piercer fiasco perhaps is distribution of North America. Director Joon-ho Bong did not reach agreement with Weinstein in the movie`s editing, then Snow Piercer didnt widerelease in America. According to the original prupose of Director, Snow Piercer is for Oscar.
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Post by will on May 16, 2017 7:34:21 GMT
www.iqiyi.com/v_19rrazxgp8.html This is the VOD page and customer must watch the VIP movie on their phone or pad using APP after payment. wmoov.com/movie/boxoffice This is the real-time box office ranking of HK. And dont worry about quotas, the quota has changed and enlarged since last year for many reasons. Copyright to VOD site is one part income, and box-office is another part. FOXs perhaps has gave up the box-office. So sad╮(╯▽╰)╭ how to educate children is the most important evwnt in most East Asia familys. movie taste of Sonth Korea and China is similar. Fox perhaps has a miscarriage of justice for its overseas market. About RDJ's The Judge, I think china people have no interest in this kind of story. Thanks so much for the links. Wow, the official China VOD has been downloaded 8.93 million times (if I translated that right). How much does a download cost or is like Neflix - free to members who pay a regular fee ? I'm reading some of the comments from the Chinese VOD. It looks like the story really resonated. No, downloading VIP film is forbidden in this site. Paid membership of this site can watch Gifted using a ticket; Non-Paid membership can watch it 48hrs after paid 5￥. vistors can watch it only 6mins.
Warmheart story is everyone`s love in anywhere.
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Post by will on May 16, 2017 8:50:29 GMT
It's not that expensive to market in China since that's usually taken care of the local distributor as part of the deal where foreign studios only get 25% of the B.O. (as oppressed to 40-55%). But China does have a quota for how many foreign films are allowed in their market each year - I think it's in the mid 30s. Studios can get around that by partnering with a China Studio or outright selling the Chinese rights to the distributor. ( Ghost in the Shell did this for $20m and they wound up better for the studio since it didn't do well theatrically there). In this case they sold the rights to VOD instead of the theatrical rights. South Korea really should have a theatrical release date for this. It has rather good Want To See numbers on Naver movie.naver.com/movie/bi/mi/basic.nhn?code=143469But they didn't have one for RDJ's The Judge either even though he's an even bigger superstar there and it was a more expensive film. Instead Warner Bros sent that to the VOD market there where it did very well. Dramas have a difficult time O/S in a lot of markets unless they come out during the Award period with all the attendant buzz. Sometimes because they don't culturally translate well (nor do comedies) but a market like South Korea is so internally strong where it's own dramas do fantastically well (some doing blockbuster numbers) it's not looking to fill the void as it does with big action, sci-fi or animation which it doesn't produce on that kind of scale. Interestingly, though SK has a very healthy "art house" market for small and older films (be they 5 or 75 years old). Genuinely interested to read all of that. I think when it comes to arthouse type dramas playing well overseas the language aspect is important too and a film where you have to pay careful note of the subtitles doesn't rock everybody's boat. No matter how well you know a language, understanding every word of dialogue can be tricky. My wife's first language is not English but her English is genuinely perfect. Nevertheless, when we watch films at home, especially American films, she often puts the English subtitles on because she says on film, as opposed to real life, it's sometimes hard to catch what people are saying. Language is one aspect, and the most important is different cultural background and interests. Take Star War and Guardians of the Galaxy as examples, weatern countries love them very much, but Chinese people perhaps do not resonate with the songs, dances,jokes and feelings that only Americans can get. Deadpool is another example,what are foreigners laughing??Is this funny?? and THR has a report about box-office of SWRO in China(why chinese people dont love SW) |
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