Post by Bob on May 3, 2017 8:07:47 GMT
What's wrong with 'The Losers'?.
I'm not being negative, well I am, but I don't think I could take myself seriously as an Evans fan if I automatically pretended to like stuff that I don't. I think there's something wrong with The Losers and I'll be honest this was pointed out to me by my partner but once she'd said it I realised she was right. This has nothing to do with Chris or any of the other actors. They are all fantastic. It is a fundamental problem with the screenplay and the directing.
It all hangs on the children and Cougar. If you haven't seen the film stop reading because there's a spoiler.
In the film, the guys put their lives at risk to save the children. Good guys. When the helicopter explodes their reaction is the reaction of someone who's just been told there's no pizza left. Not such good guys.
Clay then says that what happened to the helicopter was actually meant for them and from then on their motive is not to avenge the murder of the children but to avenge the attempted murder of themselves. Soon after this the film gets back to the joking around. Actually, Jensen seems to get over the trauma of seeing a load of children blown to pieces in front of his eyes a little TOO quickly.
This to me kind of compromises them as people and their motives as a team.
It was only when I read the comic novels the film was based on that I realised to what extent the director had got this wrong. In the film Cougar is presented as a taciturn almost mysterious character from the beginning. I almost wondered if he'd been given little to say because maybe Óscar Jaenada's English wasn't very good.
In the books Cougar is presented as normal UNTIL witnessing what happened to the children. The trauma of seeing it is what makes him go quiet for good and he is motivating by his desire to revenge their fate!! In the film this is completely re-written and you end up with this mess. It would have been better to have Cougar speaking normally up to the helicopter scene and then for the group to be at least partly out to avenge the deaths of the innocent children who are actually never even referred to again.
I rest my case for the prosecution.
I'm not being negative, well I am, but I don't think I could take myself seriously as an Evans fan if I automatically pretended to like stuff that I don't. I think there's something wrong with The Losers and I'll be honest this was pointed out to me by my partner but once she'd said it I realised she was right. This has nothing to do with Chris or any of the other actors. They are all fantastic. It is a fundamental problem with the screenplay and the directing.
It all hangs on the children and Cougar. If you haven't seen the film stop reading because there's a spoiler.
In the film, the guys put their lives at risk to save the children. Good guys. When the helicopter explodes their reaction is the reaction of someone who's just been told there's no pizza left. Not such good guys.
Clay then says that what happened to the helicopter was actually meant for them and from then on their motive is not to avenge the murder of the children but to avenge the attempted murder of themselves. Soon after this the film gets back to the joking around. Actually, Jensen seems to get over the trauma of seeing a load of children blown to pieces in front of his eyes a little TOO quickly.
This to me kind of compromises them as people and their motives as a team.
It was only when I read the comic novels the film was based on that I realised to what extent the director had got this wrong. In the film Cougar is presented as a taciturn almost mysterious character from the beginning. I almost wondered if he'd been given little to say because maybe Óscar Jaenada's English wasn't very good.
In the books Cougar is presented as normal UNTIL witnessing what happened to the children. The trauma of seeing it is what makes him go quiet for good and he is motivating by his desire to revenge their fate!! In the film this is completely re-written and you end up with this mess. It would have been better to have Cougar speaking normally up to the helicopter scene and then for the group to be at least partly out to avenge the deaths of the innocent children who are actually never even referred to again.
I rest my case for the prosecution.