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Post by Picap on Mar 22, 2017 2:35:50 GMT
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Post by bethnor on Mar 22, 2017 4:28:07 GMT
yeah, the title of that article was unnecessarily sensationalist. the implication is that chris has been inauthentic all this time. what is meant by that?
the interview with slate was much more harmless, i thought. she spoke very highly of him. it just didn't work out.
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Post by Bob on Mar 22, 2017 9:54:14 GMT
It hasn't and it's a pretty interesting interview even if the interviewer spent more time questioning himself about what it means to interview  It's also nice to see his perspective on Gifted. I hate to read articles or interviews, in which the interviewer is so self involved in him/herself, that he/she ends up writing pages of analysing his/her persona during the interview, rather than talking about the person they interviewed... and this is what this article is about.... yeah, Chris is charming in the "Pratt spectrum" but what I get from this all, is that after talking to him he/she found him too normal to write a piece, the only remarcable thing was that as an actor, he is not actually dumb and he actually analysed politics through an interesting POV rather, the usual good vs evil, everyone is doing nowadays.. yet.... we, the general public, actually like normal too.. we don't need the charming Pratt, who can work around whatever with jokes or brooding Pine, as if he lived a hard artist's life... there are those who are normal people with their good od bad things, who actually act for a living, for those who it's "just a job". O jenny's article, I like her, she is talented and what she said about chris is really nice, but I wonder why she had to give so much details.. she is free to do what she wants..but .... man!!
I've actually just decided that I don't like these magazine/online interviews at all. By their nature you are looking at the interviewee through someone else's eyes. It's all reported speech and the writer controls everything being your eyes and ears and controlling to a certain extent the way you will react. Sometimes the writer IS for sure more interested in writing about themselves. The GQ interview a few years back was criticised by some as being all about the writer's crush on Chris. Even at a basic level what Chris says is reported without necessarily the context, the tone of voice or the facial expression. Is it better than nothing? I don't know. My jury is still out on that question.
Jenny's article? It's funny, as a group we have loyally avoided talking about his love life because we know it makes him uncomfortable. I don't have the faintest idea how he will react to it. He is so locked off about these questions that when rumours are around that he's dating someone but he actually isn't, when asked he won't even deny it. Are you dating Lilly Collins? The easy answer is 'no'. Silence just feeds the rumours but Chris just strokes the mike. However, he is not the most consistent of people at times so maybe it won't bother him. My gut feeling is that he won't like it but what do I know? She definitely did not say anything even vaguely negative. Quite the opposite. She waxed lyrical about his heart. When they broke up and the reasons given were 'conflicting work schedules' I thought at the time that that's Hollywood for 'mind your own business'. I was right. Tears were shed, surprise, surprise. Nobody breaks up because they're too busy to be with the one they love. Chris actually said it in an interview once, so it MUST be true, that if you find the right person you can always make the time. After his trip getting to know people in the armed services who are away from their partners for much longer than it takes to shoot a film, he must surely have that in context now.
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Post by karlacev on Mar 22, 2017 10:53:13 GMT
Mine too. Chris comes across a lot better in real life recorded interviews than in these magazine ones which as people have pointed out sometimes end up telling us more about the interviewer than anything else. This last intereview was good but again it was like trying to see him through the fog of the writer's thoughts.
The Jenny interview was thought provoking about showbiz relationships in general. I have a problem with some of Jenny's politics but I recognize her as a decent human being who is intelligent and loving. Chris is the same. I just wonder what the hell they are both looking for if they can't make it work with a partner like that? Perfection? I can also see more clearly now the problems someone famous has dating anyone. Chris alluded to it in his other interview. Another actor understands the problems better so you have that in common. On the other hand the problem times by two is a double problem. Dating someone who is unknown means dragging them into that world. Have you noticed if he's ever seen with someone unknown she's labelled a 'mystery' girl? You're either a celeb or a mystery! When he tweeted about getting up on the wrong day my heart wept a bit because it was so obvious he was alone. Nobody around to say 'Chris, it's Sunday!'
PS Bob, check your messages sweetheart. Don't give up.
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Post by Picap on Mar 22, 2017 12:34:06 GMT
The Jenny interview was thought provoking about showbiz relationships in general. I have a problem with some of Jenny's politics but I recognize her as a decent human being who is intelligent and loving. Chris is the same. I just wonder what the hell they are both looking for if they can't make it work with a partner like that? Perfection? I can also see more clearly now the problems someone famous has dating anyone. Chris alluded to it in his other interview. Another actor understands the problems better so you have that in common. On the other hand the problem times by two is a double problem. Dating someone who is unknown means dragging them into that world. Have you noticed if he's ever seen with someone unknown she's labelled a 'mystery' girl? You're either a celeb or a mystery! When he tweeted about getting up on the wrong day my heart wept a bit because it was so obvious he was alone. Nobody around to say 'Chris, it's Sunday!' The problems with logistics and being away on film set could double but actors have more flexibility in their schedules that could make it easier to be with that other person. In this case it seems the issue though was the degree of fame and the toll it takes. It's something Chris came out years ago and said he was worried about, how it would affect his day to day life and that of the people he cares about. He seems to have come around to handling it well through years of experience but Jenny felt the pressure and stress. She's someone who has her own long career in the business, who's been in the public eye to some degree yet still felt circumscribed and from her last sentence maybe marginalized. That's also something someone who is not used to the spotlight at all might struggle with even more. It's not necessarily sad to be alone. Alone doesn't mean lonely. And he has Dodger, though it seems that Dodger for all his great qualities might be a little sketchy on days of the week. |
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Post by Picap on Mar 22, 2017 12:52:14 GMT
yeah, the title of that article was unnecessarily sensationalist. the implication is that chris has been inauthentic all this time. what is meant by that? the interview with slate was much more harmless, i thought. she spoke very highly of him. it just didn't work out. He was searching desperately for a hook, which is pretty much a requirement in one of these spreads. Hooks though by their nature provided a slant to a story where mostly everything in the story is there to serve that slant. I think of these interviews as glimpses of a person shown through a prism - created by what the interviewed as well as the interviewer wish to impart. Sometimes they illuminate, sometimes they obfuscate, sometimes they exist just to provided text to the more important photo spread. Nice mini review though (spoilers omitted) |
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Post by Picap on Mar 22, 2017 13:59:49 GMT
Everyone has seen this movie by now - for free - except us
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Post by Picap on Mar 22, 2017 14:03:35 GMT
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Post by Picap on Mar 22, 2017 20:43:47 GMT
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Post by olivia52 on Mar 22, 2017 22:54:33 GMT
I really hope this does well. I am excited about the positive comments from the advance screenings. I always hold my breath and worry when a new film of his comes out. I do not like these mothering feelings I have towards him.
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Post by JenSai on Mar 23, 2017 0:52:19 GMT
Gee whizz, with all these people going to free previews, how's it gonna make any money? Lol I'm assuming, from all the great comments appearing, that the edit shown to these advanced preview audiences will be the final cut that premieres and is ultimately released? Sounds like they got it right any shouldn't change a darn thing  I remember reading terrible, damning, reviews from preview audiences of suicide squad...then at general release people saying how much had changed (but still not saved it) Looks like searchlight have done good, it seems like this film is definitely going on Chris' "proud of" list  Want to see it so bad, when can I buy my dvd?! |
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Post by Picap on Mar 23, 2017 1:33:41 GMT
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Post by mechevpao9 on Mar 23, 2017 1:50:44 GMT
I've actually just decided that I don't like these magazine/online interviews at all. By their nature you are looking at the interviewee through someone else's eyes. It's all reported speech and the writer controls everything being your eyes and ears and controlling to a certain extent the way you will react. Sometimes the writer IS for sure more interested in writing about themselves. The GQ interview a few years back was criticised by some as being all about the writer's crush on Chris. Even at a basic level what Chris says is reported without necessarily the context, the tone of voice or the facial expression. Is it better than nothing? I don't know. My jury is still out on that question.
Jenny's article? It's funny, as a group we have loyally avoided talking about his love life because we know it makes him uncomfortable. I don't have the faintest idea how he will react to it. He is so locked off about these questions that when rumours are around that he's dating someone but he actually isn't, when asked he won't even deny it. Are you dating Lilly Collins? The easy answer is 'no'. Silence just feeds the rumours but Chris just strokes the mike. However, he is not the most consistent of people at times so maybe it won't bother him. My gut feeling is that he won't like it but what do I know? She definitely did not say anything even vaguely negative. Quite the opposite. She waxed lyrical about his heart. When they broke up and the reasons given were 'conflicting work schedules' I thought at the time that that's Hollywood for 'mind your own business'. I was right. Tears were shed, surprise, surprise. Nobody breaks up because they're too busy to be with the one they love. Chris actually said it in an interview once, so it MUST be true, that if you find the right person you can always make the time. After his trip getting to know people in the armed services who are away from their partners for much longer than it takes to shoot a film, he must surely have that in context now.
So anyway, onwards and upwards for them both.LOL yeah, it's hard to tell where the quote ends the interview Chris did, the latest one, is bad! lilke bethnor said even the title was unnecesary, there wasn't even a part in which Chris said that himself, he just analysed how it is to cope with the other part of the business, the one he has to sell his films, and we all know that, it's not new, he said it a millions times and he actually said it with a smile on his face, as "it's the way thing works", if we see him expressing those things, we get him, but on the page and coming from someone else filtered POV, people might think "he wins millions of dollars and he complains?" About Jenny's interview, I won't pretend to know if Chris might be mad at it or not, because when Beil and Chris were together, she said a lot of things about Chris in her interviews.. of course internet wasn't so big back in those days and he wasn't as famous as he is know. Maybe now he is more guarded about stuff, but what hasn't changed is that he speaks nothing at all!!. Whether it's true or a lie he just wont' answer... if it's true he is dating the woman that tobloids says he is, he would show up to an event with her or invite her with him, but even then, they won't pose on a red carpet, at most there will be pics of them together ... that's the most he will ever do. The reason for their break up: schedule issues... that's reps talking, they always say that shit. Chris not being able to stand someone going away for a movie.. well, that might bejust a simplre justification, since last year Jenny worked non-stop and yet they were together... but maybe that is just what he wants to say, the oversimplied version as to why a hot man, like him is still single, because people tnd to believe that if someone is single in his/her 30's there is something wrong. But, I don't think it's just being away for long, which is problematic, a lot of professions are like that and people get married anyway. But not long ago, for example, Anna Farris, had her podcast with another actress and they were talking about HW and how to keep relationships going, and Anna opened up about the fact that her marriage went through a rough time when Pratt was shooting his movie with JLaw, because of all the tabloids... her husband was away and they kept in touch and all, and she knew from her husband, who she trusts, that the tabloids were lying about the romance, but she felt terribly bad, thinking that people out there were reading as a form of entertainment something like that about her personal life, and that if affected in her insecurities that people could think that his husband could indeed be with a woman like JLaw. So it's not just being away, or trusting the person you are with... it's also that there are rumors, about hot people hooking up with other hot people on sets, and even if they are lies, all that expossure and lie and people opinionating about them, it adds pressure. And the fact that we don't know them!! at most I can tell Chris seems like a nice guy, far from perfect, but is there someone perfect out there??.. so I'm just glad that whether, it's his ex or friends, of co-workers, they all say he is a nice guy, a good heart! |
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Post by Picap on Mar 23, 2017 2:40:17 GMT
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Post by karlacev on Mar 23, 2017 15:11:38 GMT
Picap - OMG You're right. I think I just gave away my own insecurities there!!! He'll just have to train Dodger better!! Mechepao9 Wow, I loved your post! I agree with every single word. I was just thinking about it on my drive home about Jenny. The more I look at that interview the more I get the impression of someone who just couldn't hack his lifestyle. Warning - I know this is pure speculation. One thing that puts me off twitter/tumblr and pulls me towards groups like this is that we're a bit more 'I love Chris from afar for what he is' than 'I fantasise about being his wife'. I'm not saying we're fantasy free but some of us are married with kids and some are hetero males and basically we're all a bit more mature. Speaking only for myself, I can't say I've never imagined having a date or a hug with Chris but I do prefer my husband and hand on heart in real life I simply couldn't adapt to Chris's lifestyle. I shocked myself as I've never been her biggest fan but I really empathised with Jenny when she said her tiny one room appartment was 'fucking perfect' for her. I remembered seeing that photo of them walking through Sydney airport in the usual famous celeb way. Head down, cap on, sunglasses on even though we're indoors, chauffeur behind us, personel in charge of VIP leading the way etc She looked SO uncomfortable. I personally would love to experience the VIP treatment and five star hotels and first class air travel. I'd love to experience having a lovely big house in the Hollywood Hills. However, I'd only like to try it and then get back to real life because that life is cut off, unreal and the Hollywood Hills home has a fucking wall around it to keep people out. Trouble is as I think BsBob asked once, when does a walled palace become a prison? The only normal people Chris has any deep relationship with are his family and his friends he knew before he was famous. Chris is incredibly down to earth for such a big star but he's nowhere near as down to earth as Jenny. I'm guessing and I stress guessing from what she said that although Chris is wonderful, he's a superstar living a superstar life, which is nice to visit but not to live forever. She'd like to just drop into a bar or a small restaurant and chat to the people on the next table. With Chris it's probably sunglasses, head down and a secluded table where people can't see you. The more I think about it the worse it seems. Poor Jenny, I hope she'll be happy in her little appartment. Mechevpao9 you really shocked me when you said girls wonder what's wrong with a guy who's reached his age and is still single because I had that very conversation with my work colleagues today. Not about Chris but about a guy at work who is good looking, lovely, sweet and has the most perfect bottom I've ever seen on a man. We all love walking behind him. The thing is he's 35 and still single and when he has a girlfriend it only ever seems to last a couple of months and we're all wondering what on earth is wrong with him. He's actually a bit like Chris in that he says he's looking for a girl to have a family with and he's a great uncle often taking his little nephews out, which makes him even MORE attractive. I've said many times before Chris played too hard to get for too long. Only a man who knew how gorgeous his is to the opposite sex would have the self confidence to do that!! No, before you say, I have thought about whether or not I am/we are part of the problem. Off I go to worry about that now. Oh, dear.  |
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